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first! Smity Smitington 00:47, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

First from the bottom. [insert sexual joke that will prolly follow my post, in advance] Akio_Katsuragi 04:13, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Holy shit that saw no play? damn. figured there would be at least 2 or 3 jokes. wtf. I know iI'VE been busy but daaamn.. whats up relyk? Akio_Katsuragi 09:07, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
4 hours later, checking if people have caught a bait you told them to take. Usually that doesn't work ;p --DANDY ^_^ -- 09:35, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
January 25th to February 6th = 12 days and some change. But it's funnier your way, so whatever. XD --Jai. - 16:50, February 6 2011 (UTC)
Oh what the fuck, dates? Ups? --DANDY ^_^ -- 20:37, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Yea... my point was the 2 weeks, but still yours is funnier. Side note, is it funnier or more fun? i think its more fun, but that sounds shitty. fuck grammer. i dont capitalize alot either. fuck college english. Akio_Katsuragi 02:15, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Funnier = more funny =/= more fun. More fun = funner =/= a word. Make sense? --Jai. - 02:25, February 7 2011 (UTC)

I guess this only emphasizes how lame my talk page is :(--Relyk talk 23:17, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

lol. mines worse. Akio_Katsuragi 02:15, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Everybody's talk page on PvX is retarded in some way or another. --Jai. - 02:25, February 7 2011 (UTC)
My talk has just been for occasional circlejerking since I stopped contributing. The latest section is Flax quoting me saying I'd prefer a threesome with some gay guy, me and a cute girl (oh, that was me) I'm radicalized enough to fuck my granny. That doesn't so much fall under "retarded" as "abnormal" fucking sick (had to correct that too ;o). Depending on your view on bisexuality senior insest. --DANDY ^_^ -- 07:00, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
This didn't work out as expected. --DANDY ^_^ -- 07:01, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
what the fuck. Life Guardian 07:25, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
dandy is actually Mormon? not that it matters. Your talk page is always ^___^--Relyk talk 10:15, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Yeah I'm raised Mormon. In motherfucking Finland. It's a solid excuse for being an eccentric. Haven't been a good Mormon in years though and about a year back I finally got good reasons to believe it's a bunch of bullshit. I'll be sending my resignation papers in when I hit 18 in December. My parents won't let me leave before that, though I should be excommunicated for all the shit I've done. --DANDY ^_^ -- 15:43, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
I knew a mormon kid at my high school, he looks literally the same from in 7th grade (13 years old) and more socially inept than I am. And he has 6 brother and 2 sisters. He skipped a grade and I was next to him in ap calc the whole year. dandy totally ruins that stereotypical picture in my head.--Relyk talk 23:27, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Being a Mormon and something else than socially awkward is "hard as hell", to understate it cruelly. The kid you mention also seems to lack any form of raw intellect, so his case probably isn't particularly easy for him even though IQ ~100 persons can by intelligence come along with the largest number of persons. Religious people are often below average, tho, so... Upsie!
In my personal relationships and actually women overall I feel I probably am pretty much of a champ by any standards. In everyday situations I'm faring better and better, but sometimes I just freeze without knowing how acting normal works. Usually I'm able to take on situations normal people can't, but this is balanced by only recently even remotely figuring out how small-talk and chatting about the weather works out. Oh and if you can't tell, I'm a bit "off the norms". The ladies don't seem to mind and fuck male friends, so I guess that's ok though. --DANDY ^_^ -- 21:11, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Hey Relyk, I do appreciate your contributions/input. Wiki can just be a frustrating place sometimes. Nice DoA screen shot on your user page btw. --Saxon 00:45, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks I guess?--Relyk talk 01:24, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Stop being a cunt

^ Life Guardian 04:01, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

wiki is fucking annoying right now, i'll stop trolling rc--Relyk talk 04:26, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
I cant believe you actually said SY isnt important, u rly are bad 174.117.153.43 05:32, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
save yourselves isn't important--Relyk talk 06:56, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
I'll show you a cunt. Also, what are we talking about, link link link. I need to stay informed. Akio_Katsuragi Akio Katsuragi Sig2.jpg 06:59, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
Relyk, your argument is one of self fulfilling prophecy. If you configure your team to have enough prot that SY! is not always needed, then sure enough SY! is not that important. However, if you configure a team to rely heavily on SY! for protection, it actually provides huge protection compression for the team and means your team will do more damage. Granted, most people just want heroes to do everything for them. Smity Smitington 20:37, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
SY is far from always needed. I've vanq'ed with this bar
Asuran Scan Jagged Strike Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
and 3 heroes, there's no SY on that bar, and I was running a fairly offensive hero set-up.. --Brandnew. 21:53, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
Discordway?MinionMinion sig k bish.jpg 22:32, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
You'd say right? No, I still had that bar from when I was previously running discord. I was running some retarded overbuff your frontliners and kill shit before it kills you build. --Brandnew. 22:36, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
pro.MinionMinion sig k bish.jpg 22:51, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
I thought the SY-question was closed like 2 years ago with a "fuck defense in PvE"-mentality concluding that damage is all that matters so long as you just stay alive. I don't claim to know PvE, or any Guild Wars for that sake, but I recall consensus being that SY isn't 100% mandatory..
Can't you guys just begin archiving and categorizing all the past discussions under one page so significantly less competent players wouldn't have the same arguments that the PvE nerds had 2 years ago? So easy. Obviously a most serious suggestion. Imagine just being able to look up and link whenever someone argues you don't need IAS, IMS, res, defensive set, minor runes, Bull's Strike, defense, snares, etc! --DANDY ^_^ -- 17:36, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
Probably about 5 years too late. --Jai. - 18:27, March 1 2011 (UTC)
Different book, same story; tbh scrubs jumping on after updates make pvxwiki new and exciting and dramatic. Just don't mind my bitching and moaning every time I think they say something wrong. Eventually I'll write everything down in the guide index crap I have going because PvE is hard, then I'll be spamming it more than the focus/critical failure template--Relyk talk 20:50, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
At least. It might've been a fun idea back in the days. One page per one possible bad build in GW; optimal implementation! --DANDY ^_^ -- 20:20, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Your Breasts

Are yummy.Anvil God 22:30, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Turns out I already have a section here.Anvil God 19:53, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
You should become a luxon.Anvil God 00:59, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Don't be stupid

I'm asking you to change your bs rating. Not even echo mending frenzy wars deserve a 0 cross the board.Caplan 21:14, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

I see no reason to change it. Also don't 5-5 your own builds, especially when you're not a good player.--Relyk talk 22:29, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
eh.... yeah they do... Akio_Katsuragi Akio Katsuragi Sig2.jpg 02:13, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Armor Removal Stacking?!?!

sorry to bother you but i need to draw on your knowledge :P I have an inquiry for you good sir, its about the mechanics of this Shadowy Burden. Let's say hypothetically i had a D/A with Aura Slicer (for cracked armor x seconds) and this (13 second duration), if i use both on a single target would it:

  • reduce the enemies armor (from my attacks) BELOW the 60 armor CAP?
  • or
  • reduce it to 60 anyway, having cracked armor override the would be additional -20 armor

any answers? I'm gonna try and make a build with this if it stacks  :3--Epikphail, Ally of the Turtles and Pirates 04:14, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

why post this on my page AND gww lol. Easy enough to test. Easy enough to test. Critical hit on 100AR dummy is 28 naked, 39 with Cracked Armor, 55 with both. Critical hit on 80AR dummy is 39 naked, 55 with Cracked Armor, 78 with both. So Shadowy Burden is indeed applied after Cracked Armor.--Relyk talk 04:31, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

You're Fucking Retarded

As always. Regards, Jai. - 02:52, March 17 2011 (UTC)

I'll miss you!--Relyk talk 02:54, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
I'll miss raping you while you sleep. Good times. --Jai. - 03:02, March 17 2011 (UTC)

Id like to write here, that you are rude man (:D), you negate everything, everyones build, and I don't really think you are the pro-est gamer in gw. I dislike you... Why you wrote tl;dr in someone's discussion. STFU if it isn't interesting for you and stop reading it. your votes are the worst of all. Why the hell you do that? Do you think you are funny or what? Your builds in SFway were stupid (no spirits in team while having spirit light lol) but you said the original build is crap. As I see it isn't only my opinion... You are ugly :/ --GodFocused Anger.jpgKamil 19:35, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Sorry you feel that way, leave a note in the pity box and I'll get around to it when I cbf.--Relyk talk 03:31, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
What did you expect Kamil. "Sorry I see that have done wrong and i will be a better person in the future"? Nah :/ --GWPirate关 09:13, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

I really can't comment on what Kamil said about builds, but what he said about behavior is actually something everyone on PvX could learn from, no matter how naive his words may seem in the environment of PvX. Relyk's answer is a perfect example of how the right circumstances may bring up the worst in human nature, even in an environment where average IQ is possibly somewhere nearing 120. This potential for a comparably great intellectual surroundings is ruined by an elitistic environment where we pretend the social rules for being cool are the same as those in, say, high school. With few exceptions, I'm convinced everyone on PvX is a socially awkard, more intelligent than average, probably pretty nice person with a life matching this mould, it's ridiculous that people pretend something so opposite to this.

It's considerably often that I bring up the lessons taught by PvX in conversation with friends, only just today, marveling at how easily human beings degrade to such stupidity. After so many heated discussions and insulted players and moments of irritation one should just learn to never get irritated or be a dick. --DANDY ^_^ -- 16:14, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Never get irritated okay, but being a nice person? In all honesty you wont survive here without being a dick or you have to be elite.--GWPirate关 23:06, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
Dandy is always ^_^ gtfo--Relyk talk 05:44, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
I've never found being a dick necessary, and I wouldn't consider myself elite. Think of someone like Misery, per example, Misery was the most friendly person ever, and (s)he "survived (lolll)" --Brandnew. 09:59, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Dandy got it. I don't understand the fact that you "need to be elite to survive" here, after all, I'm standing after a very fail argument. You'd be more productive and people would care more about what you say if you're *shudder*Diplomatic... With your opinions.MinionMinion sig k bish.jpg 12:58, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

I feel like i've missed something here. What's going on? ~ PheNaxKian talk 13:05, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
Basically Dandy said everyone should be more polite, GWpirate said that wasn't possible since nice people get trolled off the site if they're not elite. I'm pretty sure the qualification isn't being elite, as we're both still here. -- ToraenTheJanitorToraenSig2.png 14:26, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
I meant in reference to Relyk. It sounds like he's said/done something everyone's referring to one pointing out their issues with him (or in the case of Dandy, PvX on the whole). ~ PheNaxKian talk 15:23, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
Kamil's referring to this build, but I'm not seeing where Relyk was being especially harsh. He just made one mistake (which Kamil noted) and offered a correction immediately afterward. I'm assuming Relyk voted/commented harshly on other builds that Kamil liked, but I wouldn't know which ones. -- ToraenTheJanitorToraenSig2.png 15:33, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
are you sure. Seems like things are being blown out of proportion if it's just for those 3 comments... ~ PheNaxKian talk 15:53, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
Relyk has been trashvoting and saying builds that kamil likes are bad for like a year now. Tbh, he's usually correct in his votes and attitude towards these builds. It's a classic case of being butthurt when your build is trashed. Dandy makes a good point though about everyone toning it down. It has long since passed when you needed to be an asshole to survive on pvx, and continuing that attitude doesn't really help anyone. The one requirement to not being trolled on pvx is to not be retarded. Life Guardian 17:01, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
Kamil's been on the wiki long enough not to get butthurt over a build. If he pushed the subject about a build, I would've taken the time to explain my reasoning. Instead, he decided to post a rant on my talk page about being an elitist. The userbase is more carebear now compared to years before because PvP is dead and there's many new players contributing to the PvE section, that's my impression about what Chaos saying. In fact, we should get rid of any negative opinions so people wouldn't feel hurt about their builds criticized. Agreeing with people doesn't make the wiki a better place, discussing and critiquing the builds does. Being called an elitist and an asshole is better than agreeing to avoid conflict or hurt feelings if it means a higher standard of quality of builds on the site. On another note, the build I posted on sfway was suppose to be a rather obvious joke. Take it for what you will.--Relyk talk 10:16, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
how come, and I quote: "If he pushed the subject about a build, I would've taken the time to explain my reasoning", if that's true, why didn't you take the time and do that in the first place =/? I've seen people now take the time and actually provide constructive criticism, instead of just "ur bad/this is bad/faggot" or whatever (that's a generalisation and not necessarily specific to any one individual, but the attitude was commonplace at one point). ~ PheNaxKian talk 12:18, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
I haven't called kamil "urbad" afaik, just not 5-5ing the builds Kamil likes, like life said. He never confronted me about it until now so I never considered it an issue. I'm not going to explain the basics of pve on every single talk page either, it's not worth the effort when it's been covered before. I assume players like Kamil will go to my talk page if they want constructive criticism on a build. I've avoided trolling the builds unless they're blatantly bad. Even then, I'll elaborate if the other user isn't being an autist. You'll find it's hard to find a specific example when I haven't (since the discussion has only been in general terms so far). If I'm out of line on what I'm saying, I won't know unless someone says so.--Relyk talk 01:27, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
If that's what you're asking, I wasn't referring to any comments outside this conversation and nobody else but Kamil (and I) has criticized Relyk's actions. I was just aggravated by Relyk's answer which wasn't only rude but, in terms of PvX, "made him look bad". --DANDY ^_^ -- 10:54, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
In response to Relyk, I blatantly oppose saying that disregard for human emotion is a necessity for quality. Criticism can be expressed softly and the amount of possible aftermaths are reduced by 95%, saving time and meaning people on this site could actually still like eachother a bit more. Actual decision-making happens in rating, just vote above 1 and it's fine.
Consider Kamil's points: "that you [we] are rude man (:D), you [we] negate everything, everyones build, and I don't really think you are the pro-est gamer[s] in gw". As if altruism alone wasn't an argument, we could be less cynic and bash and actually dare to post our sillier builds for evaluation. I'm fairly sure these new guys have tons of builds like my Lyssan Binge in storage, some of them being better and more exciting than what I can come up with. --DANDY ^_^ -- 10:54, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
You're asking to have your cake and eat it too. You can't have a friendly social environment of discussing and vetting builds and still maintain a high standard of quality where saying that you enjoy the build makes it great doesn't cut it. I wish that you could criticize a build with hurting anyone's feelings, but it can't be avoided no matter how nice you are. What you're really asking for is to be less aggressive and cynical in the standards being enforced compared to the past. To me, it feels like reinventing the wheel when there's nowhere left for it to roll. I still take the game seriously, so I'll continue to enforce the policy on the quality of the builds. And I'll still pretend that everyone won't get butthurt over discussion if I call them bad and act like an elitist faggot. We're long past the stage of the wiki being new and exciting. In the future, the wiki may serve the PvE community as a hub for discussing and vetting builds lightheartedly, I'll be playing Guildwars 2 by then. I already make myself look bad, it's been like that since the wiki was started. You know that best of all chaos.--Relyk talk 13:12, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
Cake is a valid point. Maybe. You really can't think of a way for, say, Frosty to give criticism to a build while still not pissing you off or leaving a bad taste in your mouth? It's often in saying the same things but expressed in a humble manner, or at least avoiding words such as "dumb", "bad", etc. Indirectness is awesome; "Bringing Shadow Strike would probably be pretty fun, but <reason>". --DANDY ^_^ -- 20:02, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
I can start saying ungood, but that doesn't get the point through.--Relyk talk 00:15, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
I beg to differ on so many point you've said, but i don't have the time to write a massive WoT atm, however I want one thing clarifying: "it's been like that since the wiki was started" what's been like it has been since the wiki started? The "your bad attitude"? ~ PheNaxKian talk 00:50, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
No, me being an autist and making stupid comments.--Relyk talk 02:18, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
I'm joining in a little late, but Life has proven several times that you can be constructive without being an ass. Just look at my hero builds and see how he makes criticism without making everyone feel like a retard. Not to mention that it's all coming from a person who's one of the most qualified (and thus likely to be elitist) people on PvX. And yes, I'm an excellent example on how you shouldn't act, but that's because I really enjoy being a fag on PvX, and I'm only here to enjoy myself. Also, if by some miracle Chaos and Phen make a baby, I wants it. --Jai. - 02:57, March 29 2011 (UTC)

Hey, Relyk. How're you doing? Karate KJ for sig.png Jesus 16:35, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Got back from visiting Eastern Washington University and my sister at WSU today. The hotel beds felt like concrete.--Relyk talk 00:15, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
Well, that sounds boring and uncomfortable. Are you still not in college? Karate KJ for sig.png Jesus 01:21, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
Spring break, school starts tomorrow--Relyk talk 02:13, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

OMG. At the beginning I'd like to sorry for all this flame which appeared. I didn't want to cause something like that :P. Ok, now I want to correct Torean. I didn't mean SF way but I was referring this: [1] - "tl;dr". It reweighed (Im not perfect at English, I could make mistake, I meant it was too much for me). Generally I agree with everyone here a bit. I just wanted to show you that we should be more polite to each other so world would be better :P that's why I always use smiles like this :) I want to show my emotions and that Im happy. There is no sense to repeat everything what was said. Relyk, you can run down every build but pls do it in gentlemanly way so ppl won't dislike you :P Again sorry for that what I caused. --GodFocused Anger.jpgKamil 22:07, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

i said that mostly because the wall of text(s), not because i didn't feel like reading it. most arguments get regurgitated since heroways have 3-4 of the same builds anyways--Relyk talk 07:04, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Trolling

Tone it way down. Cut back on the personal attacks, especially to new users. —ǥrɩɳsɧƴɖɩđđɭɘş Grinshpon blinky cake.gif 16:03, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

I haven't actually personally attacked anyone--Relyk talk 17:30, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
You called me straight.Anvil God 19:42, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
Blinky cake is watching you. --129.161.204.41 14:38, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

PvXwiki:Style and formatting‎‎/2011 Rewrite

Go ahead and make the changes you want there. I think it'd help the discussion a bit if we could see what exactly you want to change. -- ToraenTheJanitorToraenSig2.png 22:41, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm aware. I thought it be better to reply to phen first--Relyk talk 23:07, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Build:Team - 7 Hero Melee Support

Changed several of the builds. What would you suggest instead of the RaO? I tried thinking of something better to do with the slot, but to me it seems like you need at least two phys to make a melee-centric build viable. I'm open to ideas though. --Jai. - 08:21, April 22 2011 (UTC)

While it may have truth in that it isn't worth it without >1 melee, melee heroes suck at damage and you demolish everything yourself as a player already. If you had to choose though, you would put in a R/P barrage ranger with gfte/anthem of envy/stand your ground to abuse splinter weapon and provide support of some sort. <blah>you need weaken armor (and mandatory enfeebling blood) and foul feast on the iv healer to keep your guy clean. also panic is better than esurge in high-end because lolinterrupt stops healers and melee hate.</blah>--Relyk talk 17:40, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
Also, your sig messes up the spacing between lines. I think it's 'cause you use sub in your sig. --Jai. - 19:35, April 27 2011 (UTC)

subject to deletion

http://www.gwpvx.com/Build:A/R_Celestial_Weapon_Mantid_Farm

hey man, on that link i need some things tweaked to match the OLD pvxwiki that was updates, carry it on and the updates, well also have to edit the builds to match the videos skillz, let me know if we need anything else and ill try to get on and tweak, but the subjected to deletion one hasnt been touched in forever...outdated.

Lithril 00:45, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Vengeance is sweet ^^

^lol EFBJack-- Chieftain Alex Sig.jpg Chieftain Alex 11:49, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

I hope your excuse is better than typing crap up at 3 a.m. and not giving a shit which capital letters are what.--Relyk 17:06, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Bad Boy

Nice block log. AsuraSignature.jpgAnvil Godzzz... 16:56, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

+1--Relyk 20:58, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
I've seen worse... ~ PheNaxKian talk 21:47, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
It has more to do with this ^^--Relyk 22:53, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

I deserve two three sections

Ya rly. AsuraSignature.jpgAnvil Godzzz... 00:07, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Moo. AsuraSignature.jpgAnvil Godzzz... 02:47, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
What is 48/2(8+4)? AsuraSignature.jpgAnvil Godzzz... 03:59, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Depending on whether you do multiplication and division by left-to-right or distributing parentheses first, you'll get either 288 or 2, respectively. In other words, you're either doing 48/2 * (8+4) or 48/(2(8+4)). I tend to prefer the latter approach, but either and/or neither is truly correct. --Jai. - 04:07, June 20 2011 (UTC)
288--Relyk 04:25, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

U do the operation between parenthesis separated from the operation to the left, ur second choice shud be presented with 48/(2(8+4)) in order for u to have a result of 2... as this is not the case, its 288 like in ur first aproach 83.240.216.60 09:15, 20 June 2011 (UTC)Enormous

It just depends on the order of operations you go by. If you place distribution before multiplication/division, it becomes 48/24. If you simply go left-to-right with the multiplication of terms, then it becomes 24(12). There is some debate, I'm pretty sure, on which method should be the generally-accepted one. --Jai. - 18:52, June 20 2011 (UTC)
distribution isn't an operation jai, the distribution is (48/2)(8+4)--Relyk 00:18, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
Easier to look at just to multiply everything by using the inverse. 48*.5(8+4). Do you miss me Relyk? I'm on vacation <3. AsuraSignature.jpgAnvil Godzzz... 15:58, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
That makes it harder... And no--Relyk 19:25, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
You can't hide your feelings from me. And it totally makes it easier because you can't get confused with order of operations :/. AsuraSignature.jpgAnvil Godzzz... 22:29, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
You can because standard notation makes it difficult to tell if 48/2(8+4) is (48/2)*(8+4) or 48/(2*(8+4)). It can be interpreted as either. ~ PheNaxKian talk 00:30, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
  1. terms inside parentheses or brackets
  2. exponents and roots
  3. multiplication and division As they appear left to right
  4. addition and subtraction As they appear left to right
zzz... AsuraSignature.jpgAnvil Godzzz... 00:37, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
I'm not disuputing the order of operations. I know BIDMAS just fine. The problem is the formatting of the question through here doesn't convey if the (8+4) is multiplying the whole fraction or just the 2. ~ PheNaxKian talk 00:42, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Why would you multiply it by 2 though? Through order of operations, you would divide 48 by 2, before multiplying by 12 (8+4). You wouldn't multiply 12 with 2 because 2 isn't a term inside a parentheses or brackets. AsuraSignature.jpgAnvil Godzzz... 01:00, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
<math>ups</math>--Relyk 00:56, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi

Creep harder. 98.207.35.105 03:26, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Stalk less--Relyk 09:30, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
zz it's life. 166.205.137.34 01:27, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

ok

you're just win<3--Silven Shadow 06:30, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

I knew you'd see it <3--Relyk 06:36, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

gw

Are you currently on it? Vincent Evan [Air Henchman] Vincels.jpg 19:28, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Pretty much every day, as I am wiki--Relyk 19:29, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
actually, my question doesn't need secrecy. I was curious, if I made you an RfA, would you be willing to accept? Vincent Evan [Air Henchman] Vincels.jpg 19:31, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
I've thought about it; not exactly enthusiastic based on how I act, but I'd accept.--Relyk 19:40, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
Give me a day or so, I'll write it up along with a good testimony. Vincent Evan [Air Henchman] Vincels.jpg 19:45, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

etc

Oh! Its Kyler backwards. also, doing mtsc's with hero's for kurzick faction. need sy to 6 seconds. and amber for my "old" armor. zzz. Also, razah as sogm or dom? in your opinion. basically doing the 7 hero support one, to lazy to link, its in great pve. had been using how it is, with energy surge on dom mes, with the sogm and roj 6/7 option. I started, but have yet to attempt a run, with e/mo prot for the curses resto, and razah to an e surge dom. 2 changes, just need some feedback. I'm to cheap to have multiple hero sets, generally try to stick with one team, and just change elites with minimal bar variation. i'm boring. and by cheap i meant lazy as well. night kyler. Akio_Katsuragi Akio Katsuragi Sig2.jpg 10:03, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

you can survive on spot heals from sos rit (i think). running a n/rt healer let's you cspace, use IV since anything except FoC is pointless. just make sure you have fb on the roj monk and another hero, you don't have to disable just hope they use it when you're not killing stuff. Deep drops lots of amber jade. *wink*--Relyk 13:17, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Preservation! AsuraSignature.jpgAnvil Godzzz... 13:27, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
hmm. and what about the sogm/dom razah? and okay, she'd had PoD, i'll put iv on her. and yea, i have two fb. and i might do that if i still need amber after hitting the 6 second SY rank, for now still need kurzick faction. lol Akio_Katsuragi Akio Katsuragi Sig2.jpg 19:05, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
either works, id use sogm--Relyk 02:49, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
Will mess with both. sigh. only like 50 amber left and 30k til i can buy my elite kurzick armor. also, elite luxon looks pretty cool on sin to. may buy it one day. sigh. once i discover a steady income flow. lol. Akio_Katsuragi Akio Katsuragi Sig2.jpg 08:44, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Sorry to disappoint

But I'm never going to tickle anybody's balls. I'm sure you're rather sad about this news, but I realized that I had to make things clear in order to prevent any further sadness. I hope you will come to understand that my decision was made for the best. --Jai. - 15:17, July 13 2011 (UTC)

But all the kids are doing it!--Relyk 22:47, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
I fucking hate propaganda, particularly bandwagon. Try again. --Jai. - 01:26, July 14 2011 (UTC)

[Your Vote]

Is fucking epic sir. I /bow down to you with the utmost humility and respect. Smity Smitington 21:04, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Quit scratching his belly good sir. AsuraSignature.jpgAnvil Godzzz... 22:35, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Are u talking to me? because if u are, yes, im a dip shit, as in diping my cock up ur shit hole... fucking faggot, i only asked a question, and i dont see that part of the talk u idiot... 83.240.216.38 10:22, 25 July 2011 (UTC) enormous (u have allways been a faggot and a no-brainer and i know ull delete this, but i also know ull read it, and that for me is enough, u asshole)

lul. Enormous, please save us all the trouble and keep the NPA to a minimum. Relyk was obviously trolling and trying to get you to do exactly this, so you're basically letting him win by posting this. --Jai. - 11:07, July 25 2011 (UTC)

Jai, he was obviously not trolling me, its not the first time he does this... but ure right, no more NPA's, he doesnt even deserve that much attention, its just that i asked a question and he replied with "its actually in the talk, u dipshit", and it was unnecessary the 'dipshit' thing... 83.240.216.38 12:18, 25 July 2011 (UTC) enormous

It was perfectly unnecessary, quite adequate, and feels oh so good--Relyk 20:00, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Where'd My Build Critic Go???

Come back to me Relyk...I miss you Q.Q. Innoruuk 06:45, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

rewriting JQ mes...--Relyk 06:57, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Alliance Battles

Hi, my name's Vincent, and I leik ot AB/ Vincent Evan [Air Henchman] Vincels.jpg 03:13, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Big

what made you think he wasn't an admin? ~ PheNaxKian talk 22:38, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

I was commenting on big's lack of activity? :<--Relyk 23:07, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
He reduced activity per the Admin (team) review we had early last year. He still pops on every so often though (I couldn't say how often because he might not edit every time he pops on) ~ PheNaxKian talk 23:36, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
The sarcasm was obviously not evident in my summary--Relyk 02:59, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
obviously. Sarcasm doesn't work over the internet remember! ~ PheNaxKian talk 14:45, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
Terming it semi-active is deceiving if all the admin does is check wiki and makes 1-2 contributions a month :P--Relyk 23:35, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
That's exactly what semi-active is >>. Inactive is nothing what so ever. Active is editing more regularly than that. ~ PheNaxKian talk 19:46, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
Could the same be said for Frosty? Vincent Evan [Air Henchman] Vincels.jpg 19:59, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Herp Derp

Who'da thought you'd become the go-to guy for non-retardation on PvX. Also, Monday is Calc and Physics (and Humanities starts Tuesday) so byebye GW probably. obv I'll still come to PvX to flame the fuck out of our resident retards. --Jai. - 03:40, August 28 2011 (UTC)

My class(es) start in 3 weeks still. going to suck if i dont get waitlisted classes because financial aid requires--Relyk 04:07, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
aw, i'll be around for that, jai, can't wait to see the new you!MinionMinion sig k bish.jpg 05:01, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
Who said it would be anything new? --Jai. - 13:23, August 28 2011 (UTC)
I think you're mistaken, all the non-retards already left. Skakid9090 22:33, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Nintendo

needs to make the next pokemon game where i fucking start in pallet town, and can go to any damn place they've created, just like ash. thats why silver and gold were so kick ass. Akio_Katsuragi Akio Katsuragi Sig2.jpg 20:09, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

+1 Falrach 20:15, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
This migth come as a shock or surprise, but I've actually played competitive pokémon battling at the highest level, which I'm quite proud of. I know all about the mathematical formulas which affect your pokémon's stat. So given time, I could breed the one pikachu to rule them. I also used to be an expert in teambuilding and predicting opponent's moves. I kinda skipped the last generation, because the combat became too offensive, and I'm a defensefag. Vorpal Vorpal Signature 1.jpg 20:48, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
While i didn't play it, and i'm by no means any kind of competative player (and thus even claim to know how the following works), the last generation made getting your perfect pokemon easier. EV's were re-calculated after every fight (i belive it was every fight), even at max level. so you could just max the pokemon out on rare candy, then you could just have a fight and get your perfect pokemon! ~ PheNaxKian talk 22:25, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
You are correct sir. You now no longer have to beat up 100+ rattatas for example, to get you 252 EV's. We also have new items which can improve EV training and even decrease EV's! Nevertheless, we still have IV's (very important!), natures, moves and special abilities to worry about, and which all require a lot of breeding time. Vorpal Vorpal Signature 1.jpg 22:57, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
I never played silver/gold lol--Relyk 21:30, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Yellow best Pokémon game ever.MinionMinion sig k bish.jpg 00:29, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
I second that. Vorpal Vorpal Signature 1.jpg 00:39, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
Yellow + Crystal = God Tier Pokemon games. Vincent Evan [Air Henchman] Vincels.jpg 19:13, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
meh, silver ftw. and its sad that with the iv's, ev's, and natures, that two pokemon can have the exact same stats, and i was led to believe that a pikachu could ohko anything from the anime in my younger years, that basically each pokemon had the potential to be a god. Aaand my 6 are skarmory with spikes or stealth rock, cloyster with the lovely shell smash, scizor, d dance tyranitar to change weather in todays games, nidoking with sheer force/life orb, and a 6th is generally my up in the air choice... i could even be fine switching out a dif lead for spikes... but i cba to do anything other than build concept teams. /shrug. Also, for the benefit of faster analysis, i generally ar the concept teams, but who doesn't nowadays?? except on my main team. sigh. Akio_Katsuragi Akio Katsuragi Sig2.jpg 05:11, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
Akio moves flawlessly from pokemon to guildwars--Relyk 07:22, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
You mean, you didn't go pokemon->digimon->gw?!MinionMinion sig k bish.jpg 07:51, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
It all depends on their base stat actually. Just as in real life some people are born retards, genetically it makes sense I guess. A quick analysis of your team reveals a terrible special defense weakness, and I'm curious how you are going to handle pokémon such as Tauntrados or Infernape for example. Vorpal Vorpal Signature 1.jpg 08:29, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
Pokemon eugenics is where it's at. Let's create a master race of charmanders. Vincent Evan [Air Henchman] Vincels.jpg 04:45, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
+1 Akio_Katsuragi Akio Katsuragi Sig2.jpg 16:44, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
cuz i'm awesome, guildwars was obviously my next in line achievement. and i know that :P but i meant how a caterpie can never be as strong as say mewtwo. regardless of training. lol. even though the anime lead me to believe that was the case. And meh, wing it i guess. /shrug the main team is just what i normally use. and the concepts are generally just for fun. i cba to try and make competitive teams. since i dont play with anyone thats really that good at the game unfortunately. since i'd rather use what i like against friends, i haven't bothered to fill in weaknesses as at least they have a chance to beat me lol. Akio_Katsuragi Akio Katsuragi Sig2.jpg 03:11, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

7 hero

How many combinations do you use? kinda at a stall point atm... 2 mes ( pi and sb still unsure which on illusion..)/ 2 rit ( depending on rest, still trying to decide between st and sogm) pretty much stays on my list plus me. my big up in the air stuff revolves around mm-n/rt healer-command para.... 2 roj-r/rt healer.... possibly e/mo prot-roj-command... command-orders derv-mm idk. I'd love to use roj but I really am either to lazy or just dont get how to ball. idk. I really want something that requires little to no micro. cuz i generally cba to do that successfully. atm using dagger spam-sos rit-st rit-pi mes-panic mes- roj^2-and n/rt healer. but fuuuuck... micro'ing roj/balling for it are a bitch... anyways. advice... go. ps- mainly want something generic atm, i'm starting with guardian/protector shit. then vanquish/explorer will prolly follow. random other Honor shit. fuck Devotion. Fellowship will be pretty easy. Resilience will get a few holes filled. I guess some of Valor from oppressor weapons if i get to the kryta stuff. I mainly want 30 points... I can see getting more than that.. but then I look at devotion and a few other things and I wanna play russian roulette. I've played this game for almost 6 years.. and doing all these missions and areas on a second account is becoming trivial and mundane. lol. just wanna easily hero-way everything. update- lol, just saw you updated my char page with the new acc's assassin. XD also, linked some of your pages for me to stare at to think of hero stuff. any input is still appreciated. but ya dont have to read the wall. Kinda ranted, but yea. night kyler.Akio_Katsuragi Akio Katsuragi Sig2.jpg 05:22, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Jagged Strike Fox Fangs Death Blossom Brawling Headbutt "Incoming!" Fall Back Critical Agility Optional
Signet of Spirits Bloodsong Splinter Weapon Ancestors' Rage Spirit Siphon Mend Body and Soul Spirit Light Protective was Kaolai
Signet of Ghostly Might Binding Chains Boon of Creation Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Panic Energy Surge Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Ineptitude Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Ray of Judgment Strength of Honor Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Well of Power Blood Bond Strip Enchantment Mend Body and Soul Spirit Light Protective was Kaolai Life Optional
Feast of Corruption Defile Enchantments Desecrate Enchantments Weaken Armor Signet of Lost Souls "Never Surrender!" "Stand Your Ground!" Fall Back

Yeah that's what this is for ^^. MM is too slow these days, use it over FoC if you want to. do not micro roj, that's what YMLaD is for on my Warrior. Brawling Headbutt is enough for a sin, count 2 pulses and use. Binding Chains works awesome with RoJ, micro it and use when you feel like it. I don't find PI all that useful, Ineptitude is awesome spammable damage. I've found Well of Power to be amusing and good to use for afk-c+spacing. FoC Command is one of my favorite builds, don't bother trying to get optimal damage just let the hero spam away his skills. Spiritway works fine for 4/6 man areas.--Relyk 11:15, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

No sy on sin? or for the areas i'll be on atm, is it not necessary? Akio_Katsuragi Akio Katsuragi Sig2.jpg 16:32, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
It's almost never necessary. --Jai. - 16:47, September 25 2011 (UTC)
and here i thought it was staple... sigh Akio_Katsuragi Akio Katsuragi Sig2.jpg 00:51, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
It semi-used to be back before 7 heroes, but now you can just bring 12309487098470 spirits and enfeebling blood and SYG Panic and Ineptitude and all sorts of passive defense stuff so you don't really need SY. --Jai. - 01:11, September 26 2011 (UTC)
Nothing like that, you're not spamming it if you're afk, so there's really no point to bring it--Relyk 04:37, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

discuss

This. Or this. Since we both know I like switching heroway stuff as often as I think about sex with every british glamour model at the same time. which is about every few weeks. Also, FoC seems bitchin from what i've used from the build a few posts up.Akio_Katsuragi Akio Katsuragi Sig2.jpg 03:36, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

The vetted one is a watered down version of FoCway that is really not optimize for anything. At least Relyk's is pretty good with the whole double-Dom and ST rit. --Jai. - 10:51, October 6 2011 (UTC)
I really do prefer stolen speed. I don't like the emofag I have in since there's already ST rit, would rather go FoC healer. That is, if 2 foc and esurge isn't clean enough; foc healer dies easily while emofag protects your glass cannon.--Relyk 11:05, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
i seem to have grown attached to st rit and foc command. and yep... so far i've had good results with this test. but does suck that i'm playing on my sin. foc smite seems to be doing fine btw. Akio_Katsuragi Akio Katsuragi Sig2.jpg 20:53, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
you can always run a/d scythe if it makes you feel better--Relyk 21:35, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
Psh. dual-wield is the way to go. also, i hate the eternal grove mission hm. update- is discordway viable still? used it ages back. then went onto sabway. Akio_Katsuragi Akio Katsuragi Sig2.jpg 21:53, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

hey

your good at the maths correct? take my stat test tomoro. it is over chapters 5-7. that is of little importance. but i believe in you. your our only hope. Akio_Katsuragi Akio Katsuragi Sig2.jpg 03:46, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

is this the stats I took in hs?--Relyk 04:12, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
the stats you took as a hs student and the stats i'm taking in my 5th semester of college are more than likely the same, yes. math stopped being my strong suit when they added letters. i started thinking, this isn't fucking english class. and slacked off. yes. i made a's still. but only memorized for tests. oops. Akio_Katsuragi Akio Katsuragi Sig2.jpg 04:14, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
I've never understood such a negative attitude towards learning :DD Looking at a world full of irrational and destructive religious [fundamentalism] and hearing people be disinterested about learning shit.. Well, it's like sand in my wet pussy! --DANDY ^_^ -- 07:43, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Also, PvX is a nice example of how life would be so much easier if everyone wasn't just incredibly fucking stupid! --DANDY ^_^ -- 07:43, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Your new Wiki Drama

Meleemancer XD Shadow 10:35, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm waiting until vincent and akio are done--Relyk 10:53, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Good thinking Shadow 10:56, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
once i saw the wall of china i said fuck it... not reading that. Akio_Katsuragi Akio Katsuragi Sig2.jpg 11:50, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Touchè

^ӍiñonMinion sig k bish.jpg 03:49, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

needs more archival of wiki drama @ meleemancer. -- Chieftain Alex Sig.jpg Chieftain Alex 08:51, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
I miss the good old days.--Relyk 10:10, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
His vote was basically just a rewording of my vote from like a week ago... Smity Smitington 19:08, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
who?--Relyk 19:20, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
You. Somehow when you say something you get a "Touchè", but I just get ignored. Smity Smitington 19:26, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
I'll get round to debating it later, perhaps.ӍiñonMinion sig k bish.jpg 21:16, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
I'm sure excluded won't omit your input in his fabulous deliberations.--Relyk 22:10, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Python

I don't know shit about it, but it's pretty cool. --Jai. - 23:34, October 18 2011 (UTC)

do you have a specific text editor for running code against python in your class?--Relyk 23:43, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
python ends up pretty awkward for me since the indentation matters unlike java and php :<--Relyk 23:57, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
IDLE. It's all color coded and shit. Again, I know pretty much nothing outside of what my course taught me in a single semester, so yeah. --Jai. - 00:34, October 19 2011 (UTC)
I only know stuff from my quarter with PHP and playing around with java for a certain text mmorpg.--Relyk 01:54, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
go manly way and learn c++ Smity Smitington 23:18, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Btw

I was going to tell you this, but I became a northeastern liaison for a northeastern longboarding company. Funny story. hmu in gw. Vincent Evan [Air Henchman] Vincels.jpg 00:23, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

No idea what that means but sounds awesome--Relyk 01:55, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Hold My Dick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0GXdQdDLKM Vincent Evan [Air Henchman] Vincels.jpg 00:53, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Shrine Jump

Can you please tell me how to do it exactly? Vincent Evan [Air Henchman] Vincels.jpg 18:39, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

party takes running skills, you use a BU for lvl 3 anyway so they can perma if they have to. If more than half the party makes it to a shrine that isn't the last one on lvl 3, they can rez at it. -- Chieftain Alex Sig.jpg Chieftain Alex 18:47, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
I see, thank you. Vincent Evan [Air Henchman] Vincels.jpg 18:48, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

You have the party you run get as far as they can to the next res shrine, so that, when you wipe, you res at that next shrine. The shrine you res at is determined by the closest shrine from a dead party member. From my observations, it's the average distance of the entire party from a shrine. Typically, you can get your party to res on the shrine you desire by having them wipe a good distance away from any shrine and then killing yourself on top of a shrine.

There are 4 shrines on the third level. For the second shrine (after killing the Flame Djinn), is just behind the locked door. You have to pull the Needling Lavastriders away so your group can run past. This is much easier to do with duo since one Sin can tank lavastriders while the other directs your group and pulls away the mobs in the second room. You can then wipe and have everyone res at the second shrine. The third res shrine is at the entrance of the Flame Djinn hallway after the winding path down. You can pull mobs away so that your party gets far enough away from the second res shrine before dieing. Once you wipe and res at the third shrine (You can pull a couple Flame Djinn to kill yourself on the shrine), it's a rush to the final shrine and the boss room. It's a common tactic to pull the Flame Djinns into the Flame Traps so they don't kill your party along the way. Similiar tactics are/were used for bogroot growths solo.--Relyk 18:57, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

cock

op. nerf. plz. broken meta. too hard. --DANDY ^_^ -- 22:14, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

HAY

You know the best thing about being an awesome administrator? I can post shit like this on people's walls all of the time. Anyway, hi Kyler. -- Big McStrongfist 03:50, 2 November 2011 (UTC)